Would a fire truck get through if he was not verge parked?
Posted by Rachel Martin on Friday, 9 February 2018
More examples where verge parking is the safest option..
Posted by Rachel Martin on Friday, 9 February 2018
With regard to the language used in this letter. There is a lot of “lawful” and “unlawful” innuendo but I believe the crux of it is in the 2nd to last paragraph of the letter which states:
>> enable Council to ensure it determines a best practice approach to parking management on road verges that reflects the best interests of our region, COMPLIES WITH THE STATE GOVERNMENT AND COUNCIL “REGULATORY” FRAMEWORK and supports the ongoing safety of the local community.<<
Very easy to miss but the literal meaning of this is a complete contradiction in terms because it simply isn’t possible to satisfy all these things in existing suburban developments under existing legislation. Even their last bullet point asks if we have any suggestions for road verge parking that are “lawful” and “appropriate”. Continue reading “A response to councils meeting letter”
Well gangsters…..It’s finally arrived. Our invitation to the Council Workshop on the Parking Issues.
Please read through and note that we will have limited time for our presentation.
The time has come to now produce positive achievable solutions for them to work on. We already have some very positive suggestions but put your thinking caps on and let’s show them we are not only critics….but also willing to be pro active toward genuine change.
“I think we all want the same thing. Just to be able to park our cars safely but at the same time have it safe for pedestrians. Let us put 2 wheels up on the verge as long as not parking on the concrete footpath and future developments to to have wider streets and deeper blocks so people can park on the driveways without being outside the boundary.
I drove down Spinnaker Blvd the other day and thought this is how streets should be. Wide enough for cars to travel safely each way and then ample parking room on both sides of the road. Good old ”
“Ideally we should‘nt have to worry about parking on our own driveways, up to the boundary, as long as we are not blocking the footpath for pedestrians..”
“So let me get this right, they want our submission, 14 days before the event, giving us only two weeks to prepare, then they have our ideas and concerns and therefore have two weeks to prepare counter arguments to our proposal. Am I being cynical?” Continue reading “Invitation to the Council Workshop on the Parking Issues- and community repsonse”
Just had a very interesting chat with a prominent builder in these Stockland developments and he was sympathetic towards Stockland being over targeted on what he is adamant is a money grab from council.
Yes…. they are the developers and have what we all regard as inadequate parking facilities but they in turn are just doing what the state government legislation is allowing them. And myself being a foundation resident of the first street built in Bells Reach Drive, (by the way…the roads were not even finished when we bought, so had no idea of the parking problem to come), We have watched this whole area progress to this stage.
After walking the streets of the newer sections of Bells Reach, Arbor and Aura TALKING TO TRADIES AND GATHERING THEIR STORIES i have noted that they have definitely improved the situation by way of parking bays on some of the more arterial streets, although they still have a problem with the side streets.
My point being although Stockland are the designers, it is definitely the Council that are taking advantage of the outdated ( 23 YEARS) to be exact legislation.
SO MAYBE WE CAN GET THIS UPDATED TO SUIT THE TIMES OF HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS.
“From my understanding the state only mandate the minimum width of the road. The developers and the council can always go wider but they don’t because ????”
“Council should increase the minimum as they are the ones enforcing (and benefiting from) the road rules. ”
“Its sad when we have to create more law and legislation to force ethical behaviour and prioritise the needs of people before profits. Continue reading “Council & the Developers- the blame game tango continues”
“Just a thinking out loud……reading the post on Dr. Manns’ court battle to seek justice for an illegally issued fine. Why is it that only the wealthy ( and good luck to them) are the only ones with the means to defend themselves whilst the rest of us mere mortals are at the mercy of the very people we employ to keep things fair. As honest law abiding citizens we should not be made to pay out of our own pockets for the right to seek justice and yet LOW LIFE CRIMINALS are entitled to a tax payer funded defense…..WHAT THE…….”
“The sad part of this saga is that the Council has just used over $9,000 of our rates money to cheat Dr. Mann out of $94……this money should come out of their “political donations” not our pockets.”
“The Doctor was fined by the council and convicted of it in the Caloundra court then appealed it in the district Court and won. Forcing the Council to pay his legal fees of nine grand. Shows how deep the corruption is on the Sunshine Coast. Even the local courts side with Council to let them continually break the law. I propose we discuss that all enforcement personnel be retrained and gain a certificate of competency in local law before they are allowed to be on active duty. The level of lawlessness in the council is rampant and needs to be reviewed by the ACCC. As this Doctor points out there were three cars parked the same as him and they all got fined. He was the only one of those that could afford the $9000 to prove the Council broke the law and he did. The other just paid there fine as they didn’t have the capital to prove Council broke the law.We all don’t have to go to these measures if we all join in a complaint to the ACCC. Once the lawlessness is stopped the revenue will go back to the same level it was or better.We need the Mayor and the CEO to address this problem before they hold any workshop. They have employed unqualified cowboys to increase revenue using whatever means they like including unlawful and unrealistic actions. They must be held accountable for this Shire wide failure….”
Read about Dr Manns fight for justice here
“there are major parking issues in Clithero Ave, Buderim during school pick up and school drop off, every afternoon of the week.
People park over yellow lines, they double park across the roadway, they park on the grassed verges (yes the verges that had the citrus trees removed from them due to pedestrian safety) they park across people’s driveways preventing safe access and egress.
The residents of that street have been complaining for years and yet they can’t even get the fine police to come around and moderate the behaviour of those picking up and dropping off children. Children are placed at significant risk due to inability to pass pedestrian footpaths on a daily basis in Clithero Ave, Buderim yet the council turns a big bad blind eye.”
“Why can my neighbour park on the footpath and never get booked but my daughter and her boyfriend get booked. My other neighbour gets booked but they park on the footpath almost every day. Why is this so random and inconsistent .”
“I would say your neighbour is a friend of parking warden”
“one would think the parking warden would be rapidly running out of friends now. We have a similar situation in Palmwoods where it appears there is one friend left.”
“Council Superstars issuing warning tickets in Beerwah again today.
Guy down the road had two wheels just on the grass and had warning notice on his windscreen. Have they not got anything better to do??”
“I did notice that two cars here had warning notices on their windscreen.. Whilst a warming is better then a fine why can’t they park where they were? They wernt blocking any thing or anyone. Pathetic I think.”
“Common sense needs to be used by all concerned. If everyone parked on the roads as they suggested emergency vehicles would never get through. The council approved the width of roads on this estate so will they be held accountable if this situation occurs ?”
“Council workers in glasshouse mt spotted 6 mins giving tickets out to cars park on the grass/curb”
it doesnt make sense, there is no pathway they are blocking if the cars park up on the grass, its better for road users as its a blind corner on fitzwilliam drive towards claymore rd and is the main thoroughfare for dozens of cars, morning and afternoon and these cars are there parked almost every day can be up to 4 cars, so can be a real obstacle course
“As I understand the real problem are the subdivision design rules from Australian Standards. Councils must comply to these therefore the problem is Australia wide. This group should be renamed and the problem needs to be highlighted to federal politicians.”
“Yes,however, i think you will find that the rules specify the MINIMUM road width. Council can always have a separate by-law if they wanted to.ensure that the streets were wide enough for the volume of traffic.”
“You honestly cannot safely drive more than 35 in Bells Reach estate and some drive at 60 cut corners and I live on one – scary place to be on the road in peek traffic times.
The other day I saw someone parked ON the corner when there was straight street frontage they could have used.
It is dangerous and crazy and the only people responsible are the council and the developers.
I have asked and asked for slow speed signs and they fall back on 100 year old laws that dont fit these narrow roads with no parking.”
“Agree council should be making life easier not harder”
“It is not in their DNA apparently. They all need to be dismissed, including most of the staff – the woman parking police who came around this estate was an absolute screaming ranting bully.”
“This isnt about council giving fines for cars parked, however the cars used to park up on the grass around a corner at Sippy Downs now they no longer do and i had to slam on brakes wasnt speeding and cars coming from other direction werent doing anything illegal, if i hadnt have stopped would have had a head on collision thankyou developers and council for making the roads in our estates dangerous. It seems they prefer people to have accidents than to avoid them doesnt
make sense. NEED TO ADD never had a speeding fine or been in an accident been driving for 32 years”
COMMUNITY RESPONSES: Continue reading “What its like for residents to park in Sippy Downs”
The planners need to ensure that blocks are big enough to ensure that the distance between the garage and the boundary is say a min 5.5 metres to accommodate 99% of vehicles parked on the drive.
I think we also should be quite forceful in noting the difference between legislation and enforcement.
All Statutes contain a penalty provision, usually in the form of “Penalty Units” (currently $126.15 per unit in QLD) however there is no requirement under Statute for the penalty to be applied… it is discretionary and it is a requirement for the enforcement agency (Council in this case) to factor individual and case specific circumstances.